They're probably waiting for Vista to stop sucking. I agree that they're missing a large market, but how big of a headache is it to deal with Microsoft Windows Vista issues?
It probably is a headache and Euphonix is just waiting for Microsoft to get it's. together before they venture into that territory.
Why waste your time trying to get your hardware to work with Vista, when Vista itself does not work right at all? It seems like Vista is getting a little more stable in the audio world (especially in the last 6 months). They're probably waiting for Vista to stop sucking. I agree that they're missing a large market, but how big of a headache is it to deal with Microsoft Windows Vista issues? It probably is a headache and Euphonix is just waiting for Microsoft to get it's. together before they venture into that territory.
Why waste your time trying to get your hardware to work with Vista, when Vista itself does not work right at all? It seems like Vista is getting a little more stable in the audio world (especially in the last 6 months).Its got nothing to do with vista, it has to be a deal they've done with Apple. WIndows drivers have been available for the 'Pro' euphonics MC controlers for years, the Eucon protocol has been windows from day one so all the big post houses that use Nuendo could use it.
I can't believe there's a problem making the 'lesser' controler work! Vista and Vista x64 are rock solid stable here now. It is now my OS of choice. Some tweaks need to be done, but I find it equal to XP. And on modern hardware better memory performance for sure (all the manufacturers are assuming Vista will be used and writing for it). This was a deal with Apple. I am 100% sure (though I have no official confirmation) that this was an agreement they made with Apple.
Some of the Euphonix people ever sounded like they were sweating when I mentioned I could get it to work easily on PC by installing the Eucon software on an old, cheap mac and then making the PC a workstation on the network. I am glad they are finally getting around to official PC support. I am getting ready to put in the full 5 piece rig here. I think I can help clarify this issue. No, I am not a Euphonix employee, but yes, I do work at a facility with 3 System 5 consoles running Eucon Hybrid, so I do know a bit about this firsthand. The Artist series has a Eucon application that runs and is then accessed by the client devices, i.e. That application is currently only available for Mac.
If you are on a Mac, then the application can run on the same machine as the Artist Series controller is plugged into. This is what most, but not all, Mac users are doing. However, as long as a Mac running the Eucon application is available on the same network, a PC with an Artist Series plugged into it can act as the client.
So if you currently have a Mac in your studio, or can lay your hands on a Mini, iMac, G5 or whatever, you should be able to set up Eucon on your network with the Mac and then use your Artist Series on a PC running a supported DAW. Not a perfect solution, but for someone who really wants to make the Artist Series happen on their PC, it is possible at this point in time. Should the Eucon app become available for PC in the future, then it could be run on the same PC as the DAW, simplifying the setup. But with a networked Mac available, you can do what you want now. I have big problem my cubase doesn´t show eucon in devices,I downloaded licence from steinberg but nor C4 nor C5 doesn´t show the eucon tried pc and mac,any help?The 'Likely Story' tweak to make it work on a PC works perfectly but NOT in Cubase 5. As a matter of fact, Euphonix HAS NEVER RELEASED a new MC Client (Pro) that includes an euconadapter.dll compatible with Cubase 5 under Windows which is necessary to apply the tweak. So, if you try to install the MC Pro Client and you copy, as suggested in the tutorial above, the euconadapter.dll in the ' Components' folder of Cubase 5, it's not been recognized by Cubase 5 itself and it still doesn't show it in the Add Device list.
I contacted Euphonix and they confirmed that there is no euconadapter.dll compatible with Cubase 5, which happens to mean that you cannot use Cubase 5 as a DAW under Windows, neither with the Pro MC. The trick, though, perfectly works with Cubase 4, which I used with full and great satisfaction! Regarding a possible release date of the PC version, they firstly (before Musikmesse) replied to me: Hi - We have had a huge number of requests from Windows users for Artist PC support, and all of our professional consoles are cross platform, but we don't have an official release date to announce at this time.
We will be making official announcements regarding this at Music Messe (Frankfurt) early April. There is currently no PC adapter for Cubase 5. Regards, Euphonix Support TeamSo I waited for the Musikmesse to finish, then I wrote to them again and they simply said: Thank you for your inquiry. The Euphonix Artist Series currently only supports Mac OS X, and we have no announcement regarding Windows support at this time.
No doubts that there is something wrong with them and the guess about a deal with Apple is more than realistic. I try to better explain. Under Windows, you can see the EuCOn adapter only installing the MC Client for the MC Pro. After the installation, you need to copy the euconadapter.dll file from the Euphonix MC Client folder to the Components folder of Cubase.
Unfortunately, this procedure doesn't work for Cubase 5, as the euconadapter.dll is not recognized by it as a proper device. Though it works great with Cubase 4, which I used for some weeks in conjunction with the MC Mix I own. Under Mac OSX, you need to install the new 1.2.5 version of the EuCon Application, but in this case Cubase has to be installed in the Mac. In this second situation I can't help.
Oh no, this was not a joke! I am guilty of being a believer. This is what I got from them on 6-2-2009: 'Just keep momentarily checking the website. Keep the lines open, when the announcement is made, we will post it. Regards, Artist Support From: Luca Formentini Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:01 PM To: ARTIST Subject: Re: HEADER - Artist controllers for Pc - Email found in subject This is very good news!
I have been waiting for this for a long time. Thanks for having informed me.
Are you going to keep sending updates on this subject? My best, Luca ARTIST wrote: We intend to make an announcement about Windows Support very soon. Artist Support' I am sorry for having brought some more trouble than there already is. The 'Likely Story' tweak to make it work on a PC works perfectly but NOT in Cubase 5.You CAN use the Euphonix with Cubase 5 as long as you're on a 32bit version of Windows. Simply go to Control Panel - Euphonix and add the Cubase5.exe with either a HUI or Mackie Control emulation (select from the dropdown).
In Cubase 5 instead of adding a EuCon device (obviously this is preferable) create a HUI/Mackie Control device and connect it to the now added Euphonix emulated MIDI ports. This will at least allow you to have the HUI/Mackie Control functionality in Cubase 5 with your Euphonix Artist Series devices. Here's an article on doing this: Hope this helps.
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Both work well. I recently bought an MC Control, and there was absolutely nothing to do for set up. I plugged it in, Logic recognized it, and i went straight to work. Aside from that big advantage, the Eucon Protocol that these controllers use if considerably faster than MIDI, which is what the Mackie Controller uses (even though it connects via a USB cable). I happen to think the Euphonix stuff looks WAY cooler, but that's a subjective thing, and has nothing to do with performance!
Nov 7, 2008 3:17 PM. Just saw this over at Gearslutz: We are pleased to announce the release of EuControl 1.2.2 What's New MOTU Digital Performer 6 (v6.01 or later) now directly supports EuCon, giving you added in-depth control of DP from MC Control and MC Mix. You no longer need to configure DP to use Mackie Control. Detailed setup instructions are found in the EuCon Application Setup Guide (PDF), included with this installer. EuControl now remembers which surfaces are in the My Surfaces list. This helps in facilities where other EuControl users are on your same network, as only surfaces that belong to you are added when EuControl starts. If this applies to you, go to the Surfaces tab and change the new Automatically add: pop-up button to My Surfaces only.
The default setting is All Surfaces, which is used when you are the only person running EuControl in your home or studio. It provides a no hassle, plug and play experience, automatically adding your surface(s) so you never have to manually edit the My Surfaces list. MC Control users can speedily scroll through Pro Tools tracks using the jog wheel. When controlling Pro Tools, go to the Soft Key tab and assign the EuCon command Left Edit Nudge to a soft key. Toggle this soft key on.
Turn to jog wheel to nudge forward and backward through all tracks. Bug Fixes Improvements in knob sensitivity when controlling certain Pro Tools plug-ins.
If using Waves plug-ins with Pro Tools, be sure to select the HUI control surfaces support (low res) checkbox in the Waves Preferences dialog box that comes up when launching Pro Tools. You can hold the shift key during Pro Tools launch to show this dialog.
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